Prime doesn't need to be more powerful than Umbra, in fact I'm entirely for them being the same - just so everyone has access to an Excalibur of equal strength much like all the other Primes, but for something that a great many have paid for (as that was the only way to get Excalibur Prime). Makeing it an Unobtainable Pay2Win of the worse kind.No, the best alternative would be to allow Umbra Forma. The alternative would be to make Excalibur Prime the best but hard locked behind the Founder Exclusive. Walrus-Sama님이 먼저 게시:This is how it should be. Umbra leaving Prime in the dust is not how the future Umbras should be approached. Excalibur is one of the few frames I run with all 3 'main' Warframe mods (Redirection, Vitality, Steel Fiber) because he still performs really well against 120 Corrupted Heavy Gunner's with those equipped. He's better than normal Excalibur sure, but he's completely obsolete in the face of Umbra (unless you run without Vitality or Steel Fiber, which I do not). I'm not going to delete Excalibur Prime, but he now serves no purpose at all. I usually delete obsolete frames, such as regular versions that I have Primed, because they're using up space and I'll never both using them (obviously). I know DE wanted to satisfy non-Founders, but leaving Prime in the dirt (despite buffing his armour) is kind of annoying. This is with the exact same mod setup - only Umbra mods instead of normal mods. Excalibur Umbra has 330% Extra HP (330 extra HP). Excalibur Umbra has 82.5% Extra Armour (247.5 extra Armour). Excalibur Umbra has 36% Extra Ability Strength. Now, let's Forma them both and upgrade Excalibur Umbra's mods: 12 remaining mod slots (Excalibur Prime has 4 remaining - no Exilus Mod) - this allows for Power Drift (21% total extra Ability Strength). 6% extra Ability Strength (Intensify is Max Rank on Excal P) 20 less HP (Vitality is Max Rank on Excal P) 15 less armour (Steel Fiber is Max Rank on Excal P) NOTE :: Umbra Mods are still Rank 5, the base rank they come as - so not even upgraded yet. Of course, he requires no small Endo investment, but with my current Excalibur setup (which I copied onto my Umbra) leads to this:: Umbra is a direct and massive upgrade from Prime. Yes, their stats are identical - but those polarities, and those mods.
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